Got Pissed! : Where did Horus Heresy series gone wrong?

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Now that we got that out of the way,

I assume you know what Horus Heresy is if you're reading this retarted ass blog.
Before the novel series, Horus heresy was only found in Codexes
as background on Space Marines and Chaos Marines.
And there was a card game that focused on Horus Heresy,
which was made into a neet book called "Collected Visions"

Although there are lore rapes in Collected Visions it's a neat collection
of major events in Horus Heresy.

Horus Heresy had three main books to set the stage.

 I won't be talking writer specific points at this point
and hold the Black Library in it's entirety responsible.

These books were good and enjoyable but then the entire franchise turned to shit.

Now I really can't blame Gamesworkshop for being an idiotic corporatic morons since
many other companies follow the "Milk the franchise to death" route.

So these three books follow Horus and one his captains Garviel Loken

Obviously Loken was the protagonisma and we see events from his perspective.
This is fine and works because Loken is a default good guy.

The main theme of Horus Heresy is the fall of mankind.

Now, the mankind has fallen before but this time the Emperor dies and
our precious race plunges into fascism and eventual extinction in the hands of
corruption, chaos, aliens and mutants.

In short, we die out.

I'm just going to pop up a quick background on the whole Horus Heresy so you can
follow the theme even if you're not familiar with it.

Emperor is "born" into existence at Asia Minor in an ancient city called Corum(Choruhm).
In modern day Turkey.

He born because all the shamans of mankind commited suicide collectively to
prevent themselves from dying out.

They did this to protect mankind since the warp was murdering shamans and
they decided that mankind need their help to survive.

So the Emperor was born.
A god-like powered psyker made out of thousands of shaman souls.

Emperor travelled the world for thousand of years,
helping out as an influencial figure in shadows.

He was Jesus spreading the word of peace among men.
He was beside Alexander helping out him to conquer an Helen Empire.
He helped build the Xia dynasty.
He helped mankind advance the sea-faring.
He made Rome conquer the mediterranian.
He made Britain conquer the colonies.
He made America conquer the pacific and middle east.
He was beside Hitler, helping him out to exterminate the Jews.
He shot Kennedy because who needs Kennedy.
He mind controlled an airliner into the twin towers.
And he helped mankind beyond M2(2000's).

His grooming direction caused mankind to enter into a Golden Age of Technology
Also called the Dark Age of Technology by Technophobics.


Now with Trump president we will see more rage against the machines.

Then came the Age of Strife,
and the greatest age of mankind ended in anarchy and loss.
Age of Strife was a natural occurance, or a Chaos Gods induced one.
You choose.

Anyways, after millenias of suffering and war finally Emperor was in position to act.
And bring the Age of the Imperium.

How would he do that?
He used super science to make the super soldiers called "Thunder Warriors"

He conquered Terra with armies of Thunder Warriors.
Then perfected the super soldier methods, thus creating the Adeptus Astartes.
The frea-fucking Space Marines.

He created Legions of them, numbering from several dozen thousand to hundred thousand.
To create the Astartes, he split his own DNA or magic-DNA to make Primarchs
 and then split their magic-DNAs and put them inside Astartes.

Primarchs are his clone-sons that are the ultimate human beings, second to only the Emperor himself.

Basicly this happens...

Now that's the main narrative.

So at this point the novel series take over and they jump
from before the Great Crusade to the Crusade and sometimes beyond it .

The timeline in the novels are all over the place.

Some are prequels, some are advancing the storyline,
while some are just fluff about past.

In short;
Emperor goes dragon hunting in libya.
Spoilers : Riding a horse

The first book sets up the condition Horus and Loken is in.
And we see Horus as a good guy.

Then in the second book he gets corrupted by Chaos.

And in the third book he kills a lot of Loyalists in Istvan or Istvaan or someshit.

So we have half the narrative already told in the first three books.

Then some other novels fill in on major events in Horus Heresy,
like A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns.

But a lot of the others are just inconsequential side events that we hardly care about.

If you have been reading this blog(For what reason I don't know), then
you've seen me rage on that novel by Annandale.

Damnation of Pythos.


If the story was good in it's own right then I would be okay with it.
But most of the novels are just fillers and badly written boring shits.

What was that one Graham Mcneill wrote?
 Annihilation Sanctum?
Scrotum Exterminatus?
 Angel Exterminatus?

Yes, the last one.
It's somewhat of an important side event, Fulgrim tries to sacrifice Robot-Man
to the Chaos Gods so that he can become a Deamon Prince.

Which is a neet idea but the execution was so so boring and
the novel itself sucked ass.

There was only one enjoyable character moment for Pertubarto,
where he and some marine plays 40K-esque war simulation and we
get to see Perbataro as a master strategist.

The series is utterly shit with some gems inside.
People debate heavily on what's good or bad.

But as always I approach it from a story perspective.
I support creativity and most of all good storytelling.

I don't want that robot-like re-telling of the story obviously.

For instance some people got mad became Dan Abnett wrote Horus as a
good guy in the first novel.

But I liked it simply because it enrichs the story rather than being
"Just like written in Codex Space Marines."

And it also puts a "What if..." angle to the story.

Breaking lore heavily is a no-no but also you have to be creative.
It's really a hard-line to walk and obviously you won't be pleasing
every fucking nerd out there.

Combine that with "WE NEED MAKE MORE MONEY" attitude of GW
and you have an amazing shit-fest called Horus Heresy.

Here are some main problems that made me dislike the series.


The Loken's arc was complete in the first three books.
There was no need to bring him back.

First they establish him as the "generic good astartes"

then in the second book his "perfect ideals" go against his newly-corrupted legion
and he is divided between his loyalty to the Emperor and his father Horus.

In the third book which was basicly Istvaan III where Horus purges all the
loyalist marines from the legions on his side and kills them all on the planet.

Which is epic as fuck.

Then Loken dies.

That's a good twist within the theme.

We fall. Mankind falls.

Our heroes die.

Then the most reasonable thing to do is to move on and come up with new
interesting characters to serve the plot.

 But I guess we need to resurrect Loken so we can sell his toy...

 Not that I'm against toys but you could just made his model and sell it,
while still keeping him dead.
It was proven again and again by history that GW doesn't give two shits about lore
when it comes to model selling.
So why now? Why him?
GW is run by idiots.

Only few writers bothered to do proper characterization.

Namely Dan Abnett and Aaron Demski Bowden.
Examples would be:
But even though a good novel Know no Fear,
has literally zero memorible characters.

The story and the novel is fun to read. 
But at this point there were so little characterization.
And I think they beat up Dan Abnett when he proposed to write more characters
 and shouted at him:

 Which he did.
And wrote Guilliman as a proper character.
Whether nerds would agree or not, Guilliman and his character
was one of the few good things in the novel.
If you have to ask;
In the novel you see that Guilliman is naive towards
his brother's intentions and thinks that relationships can be fixed.
But when Lorgar springs his trap he is adamant and strong.

When I say characters, I don't mean the countless random names that were thrown out there.
But actual memorible characters that do something that matters.
For instance we see Logan in his initiation to the morningwell and he
says "I won't worship spirits or rituals" or something similar.

Which puts his character in the time and theme.

Time : Emperor's Atheistic Crusade
Theme : Values of past will be crushed under the coming events.

There is a similar Space Marine captain(or something) in Know no Fear.

And the only thing he does is save a woman from death.(I'm not even sure it's him or someone else)

The whole point of Know no Fear is to start the "scourging of Ultramar" 
which is heavy with dramatic mood.

So why are there not memorible characters?


Ollanius Pius was the only memorible character from Know no Fear.
But it was just ruined instead of being awesome.

He was the single most awesome official Horus Heresy character.
And he is completely within theme.

One man against a god of war.
One single ordinary man against a Chaos War God.

And he sacrifices himself and shows the Emperor what Horus has become,
so he can use his powers to destroy him.

 But now Pius is immortal.

 Oops...there goes the theme.

Now I haven't read all the novels and they might still take their chance and play the
"His immortality is nullified because of Horus' chaos asshair power."
But you made him immortal.
So right now his arc is completely pointless.
Or is it? Dan Abnett, are you going to pull on us a Torment?

I can cope with the Grammaticus guy being immortal because he is a meaningless side character.
And his agent of Cabal status is actually very useful for 
binding the entirety of Horus Heresy and to make him
a good "Obi Wan Kenobi's Ghost"
to talk about stuff and fluff with other important characters.

I may seem like talking shit about Dan Abnett, but actually he is the only
one who actually cared about the 40K lore up until this point.

Despite the changes he brought Pius back from the retconland.
And he made Bjorn a character, which is neat.

Aaron Bowden also spiced up the World Eaters and Word Bearers. 
And probably saved them from the "generic writing" of Graham Mcneill.

What's funny is that Graham is writing Iron Warriors because he wrote some Iron Warriors
novels before Aaron came into the picture.

Although his initial Iron Warrior novels were good,  
Graham is really a sucky guy when is in the mood.

His novels range from "It's okay" to "Fucking hell, this sucks."

Where his old Ultramarines novels and Iron Warrior novels are okay.
His Black Templar Codex and subsequent Horus Heresy novels(namely Angel Exterminatus)
was a generic fuckfest.

So my idea was that he "pushed" the World Eaters and Word Bearer on Aaron.
Thinking that the new guy should write the "scraps" while
he blazes in glory of Mechanicum and Iron Warriors, which are just
the two most awesome factions by default.

But Aaron turned the "nobody cares" legions into "super epic grim dark" legions.
While Graham's precious Mechanicum and Iron Warriors sucked ass.

Graham Mcneill would roll over in his grave...if he was dead.
He should be.


That's about it.

Horus Heresy had a good start but then it
became a "model selling" shitfest.

They even babbled on about how they are going to
write the novels in somesort of council.
So that everything is going to be consistent.

What a load of bull.

But my good friends, don't you worry.

Lambdy here would tell you what to read and what to expect.

This is my list of relevancy:

This is my list of scale:

I can't scale the anthologies since they contain many stories from different authors.
But most of the time they contain one or two good stories.


There are some not so good ones in Good category but I liked them simply because they
introduced the major events of Horus Heresy.

For instance Fear to Thread or Flight of Einstein weren't awesome.
But they have some neat moments.


Meh is also a debatable category.
For instance Deliverance Lost is a way better novel than Battle for Abyss.
But Battle for Abyss had one or two good characters moments.
So I put it up there.
Probably a mistake.

In short: 
There was this World Eater loyalist, 

the characters are in a Word Bearer traitor ship and
this World Eater roams the ship by himself and randomly kills Word Bearers.
Actually other than that the novel was shit.

That's why it's in Meh.


Garbage category is utter shit.

Nemesis is the greatest pile of shit ever made.

Garro series was supposed to be the emergence of Grey Knights.
 But he is running around the galaxy for the moment, doing nothing but gathering up people.
Maybe the individual narratives weren't so bad.
But when I think back, the entire Garro storyline is pointless.

That Silent War looks like Garro too.
Maybe finally that would have some pointy plot.

As you can see there is shit tons of novels and shorts I haven't read.
But do you want to know the funny fact?